Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 11 Feb 92 03:47 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA11111; Tue, 11 Feb 92 03:43:51 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA18941; Tue, 11 Feb 92 01:17:55 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA21423; Tue, 11 Feb 92 01:17:54 EST Message-Id: <9202110617.AA21423@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 0912; Tue, 11 Feb 92 01:16:29 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 1044; Tue, 11 Feb 92 01:16:09 EST Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1992 23:57:34 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: phonemes X-To: ucleaar%UCL.AC.UK@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Feb 11 03:47:31 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Since the buffer is defined by convention to be a sound that is not found in] LOjban's phonemic inventory, I see no reason why it cannot appear anywhere. I don;t know why it WOULD appear somewhere else, except perhaps as another kind of hesitation sound between words. Remember that we define the buffer in terms of its appearing in consonant c clusters, saying it is a non-Lojban sound. We never say anywhere that non- Lojban sounds have any meaning in any other part of a word - it is not relevant to Lojban phonology, of course - nor is it relevant to a speaker - we teach people what we want them to do, not the full range of things they could possibly do. lojbab