Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 4 Feb 92 19:26 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA16786; Tue, 4 Feb 92 19:16:30 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA20232; Tue, 4 Feb 92 17:40:08 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA17156; Tue, 4 Feb 92 16:39:58 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA29411; Tue, 4 Feb 92 16:03:07 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA15201; Tue, 4 Feb 92 15:38:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9202042038.AA15201@relay2.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 0515; Tue, 04 Feb 92 15:36:50 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 8197; Tue, 04 Feb 92 15:34:50 EST Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1992 15:34:11 EST Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Digit strings X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: David Cortesi's message of Tue, 4 Feb 1992 08:55:20 -0800 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Feb 4 19:26:23 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Your proposal about using rafsi for {megdo}, {gigdo}, etc, as number-builders inside digit strings is, as you surmised, ungrammatical, since you can't use rafsi as rafsi anywhere but in lujvo and le'avla. Besides, they all end in consonants, making for all sorts of trouble. But maybe there can be a way that's related, I'll wait for other people's ideas. Your problem with {ci ki'omegdo} is no problem. Even assuming the semantics of your two alleged parsings were different, the fact is there's really only one parse. {ci ki'omegdo} is unambiguously {ci ki'o boi megdo ku}. Why? because the {ki'o} here can't be part of a lujvo; it fails the *tosmabru test, by demonstration! Since it *can* fall apart, it does. If you want a lujvo, you need {ki'ormegdo}. So that's okay. ~mark (shoulson@ctr.columbia.edu)