Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Mon, 17 Feb 92 00:04 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA01515; Sun, 16 Feb 92 22:26:20 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA27210; Sun, 16 Feb 92 21:29:26 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA07160; Sun, 16 Feb 92 20:38:38 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA26687; Sun, 16 Feb 92 20:08:34 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA02826; Sun, 16 Feb 92 18:53:53 -0500 Message-Id: <9202162353.AA02826@relay2.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 7973; Sun, 16 Feb 92 18:52:44 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 8372; Sun, 16 Feb 92 18:51:33 EST Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1992 23:48:11 GMT Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski Sender: Lojban list From: Ivan A Derzhanski Subject: consonant cluster lerfu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson"'s message of Sun, 16 Feb 1992 13:38:01 EST <5930.9202161915@cogsci.ed.ac.uk Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Feb 17 00:04:40 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1992 13:38:01 EST > From: "Mark E. Shoulson" > > Why not just make 'em cmene, which nobody cares about? so {tsyt. bu} or > something? Or {.ets.bu} and {.etc.bu}. > Hell, I'm not much averse to the hebrew as {alef. bu, bet. bu, > gimel. bu, li'o}. You're not very much averse to it? I cheerfully vote in favour of it. I prefer being able to use the traditional names of the letters (lojbanised, of course, which in this case means cmeneified and with {bu} added at the end), rather than learn the new ones. Besides, it is more elegant this way, given that the alternative is to do this for some letters (such as aleph and ayin), while naming the rest after their alleged counterparts in the Lojban alphabet. Ditto for the Greek alphabet (if we have {.et.bu} and {.omeg.bu}, we might as well have {.epsilon.bu} and {.omikron.bu}, rather than {.ebu} and {.obu}). Ivan