Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Sat, 8 Feb 92 02:26 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA14052; Fri, 7 Feb 92 20:35:58 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AB24963; Fri, 7 Feb 92 20:04:48 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA02782; Fri, 7 Feb 92 17:52:07 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA24648; Fri, 7 Feb 92 14:26:06 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA24671; Fri, 7 Feb 92 13:56:55 -0500 Message-Id: <9202071856.AA24671@relay2.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 6058; Fri, 07 Feb 92 13:30:42 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 5411; Fri, 07 Feb 92 13:30:13 EST Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1992 18:29:10 +0000 Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Subject: Re: states/provinces/counties To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: (Your message of Wed, 05 Feb 92 18:59:25 N.) <8797.9202052005@ucl.ac.uk Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Feb 8 02:26:25 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Edmund Grimley-Evans : > I shouldn't waste much time inventing Lojban-names for the British > counties. Many of the English names are completely unknown even to the > people who live in them! And many of them have no long tradition. > Very few British counties have their own names in Esperanto, and only > one of them has a name in French. (I'm not going to tell you which, > guess!) I know no Briton who doesn't know which county they live in (unless they live in London whose country status was abolished by the Thatcher junta who resented living in a city controlled by democratically elected left-wingers). If one had to name but a single county, it really ought to be Cornwall. Incidentally, I would prefer for London the cmene /london/ rather than /landn/. As Bruce Gilson has pointed out, preservation of phonology should be balanced against preservation of orthography. What about the Thames? --- And. ps Anyone called Featherstonehaugh is not going to take kindly to being rendered fancos. On the other hand, Mr Cockburn might be agreeable.