Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 11 Feb 92 22:37 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA29938; Tue, 11 Feb 92 20:36:31 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA10606; Tue, 11 Feb 92 19:34:11 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA05523; Tue, 11 Feb 92 18:07:47 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA20304; Tue, 11 Feb 92 18:05:48 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA11697; Tue, 11 Feb 92 15:57:57 -0500 Message-Id: <9202112057.AA11697@relay2.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 2904; Tue, 11 Feb 92 15:56:41 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 7865; Tue, 11 Feb 92 15:54:54 EST Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1992 08:54:50 GMT+1200 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!chandley Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Handley Subject: RE: Digit strings X-To: LOJBAN%CUVMA.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu To: John Cowan Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Feb 11 22:37:30 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN > I think this is worth considering, but it >opens up a number of related areas: specifically, the order of >dates and times. When I read the chapter of the textbook on dates, >my immediate response was "What, you're constraining me to quoting >them in a particular order?" I note, for example, that both ISO >dates and everyday Japanese usage go consistently from larger to >smaller. For a direct supporting argument for And, I believe that >in Arabic, numbers are consistently read from smaller to larger (as >numbers between 20 and 99 in German). Certainly the current confusion between the British (DMY), USAn (MDY) and ISO (YMD) _does_ need to be resolved and soon. In twelve years time we are going to see dates like 2/3/4 and I defy you to determine to determine what day is meant. Maybe Lojban could lead the way, or at least be consistent within its community. On the subject of numbers per se (as opposed to namebers such as dates, model numbers, chip numbers, etc), bear in mind that most arithmetic operations work from least significant to most significant, so maybe there is a case for writing and saying them that way. Going to take quite a mental shift however - except for the Arabs. Chris Handley chandley@otago.ac.nz Dept of Computer Science Ph (+64) 3-479-8499 University of Otago Fax (+64) 3-479-8577 Dunedin, NZ