Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Mon, 3 Feb 92 17:39 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA12731; Mon, 3 Feb 92 17:35:18 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA28159; Mon, 3 Feb 92 16:50:45 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA17293; Mon, 3 Feb 92 16:07:39 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA02213; Mon, 3 Feb 92 15:13:50 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA17053; Mon, 3 Feb 92 14:55:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9202031955.AA17053@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 7829; Mon, 03 Feb 92 14:53:42 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 9846; Mon, 03 Feb 92 14:52:58 EST Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1992 14:51:42 EST Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Allophones of zero in Lojban X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski's message of Sat, 1 Feb 1992 19:38:11 GMT Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Feb 3 17:39:07 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Ivan, you might be pleased to know that {.ymlatu} is, indeed a valid equivalent to {mlatu}, but not because the initial {.y-} is thrown out. Since it's between words, and preceded by a pause, it gets recognized as the hesitation word {.y}, and thus ignored by the grammar. So *poof*, your wish is granted! However, this won't really help all cases; some people are still going to have trouble with medial clusters. Oh, well. ~mark