Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 11 Feb 92 10:11 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA03041; Tue, 11 Feb 92 10:02:37 EST Received: from buphy.bu.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA02684; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:57:50 -0500 Received: from sirius.ctr.columbia.edu by buphy.bu.edu (4.0/Umax-4.3) id AA29698; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:48:24 EST Message-Id: <9202111448.AA29698@buphy.bu.edu> Received: from bugle.ctr.columbia.edu by sirius.ctr.columbia.edu (5.67/5.10) with SMTP id AA16250; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:47:17 -0500 From: Mark E. Shoulson Received: by bugle.ctr.columbia.edu (4.1/5.10) id AA04413; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:47:15 EST Date: Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:47:15 EST To: 72627.2647@compuserve.com Cc: conlang@buphy.bu.edu, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu In-Reply-To: Don Harlow's message of 11 Feb 92 00:21:13 EST <920211052112_72627.2647_DHJ43-2@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Monato Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Feb 11 10:11:07 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!ctr.columbia.edu!shoulson Well, the box on the contents-page said only that there was a copyright. I don't think I'm really taking away any business from them by sending out this one article, so here it comes. Esperanto first, then my own uninspired translation: ------------ Dum la pasintaj du jaroj entuziasmuloj de logikaj lingvoj sukcesis revivigi eksperimentan lingvon pli frue publikigitan per 1960-a artikolo en la jxurnalo _Scientific American_ (Usona sciencisto). Baziuta sur la pli frua _Loglan_ (kunfando el anglaj vortoj kun signifo "logika lingvo"), la amplekse refarita _lojxbana_ posedas ne nur plene definitan gramatikon, bazan vortaron kaj vortformadajn algoritmojn, sed ankaux imponan aron da komputilprogramoj por sintaksa malkombinado (angle _parsing_), lernado de la vortaro, kaj produktado de frazoj. Scio de matematika logiko evidentigxas en la predikata formo de lojxbanaj bazvortaroj. Ekzemple, _klama_, uzata en formo "klama X Y Z" estas difinita kiel "veni/iri al X el Y tra Z". Vortetoj _se_, _te_, _ve_ produktas _seklama_ (destino), _teklama_ (origino), kaj _veklama_ (vojo). La frazo _mi djica le nuke do klama_ (lauxvorte "mi volas la okazajxon de via venado/irado") laux algoritmo malkombinigxas al _mi djica [le nuke (do klama)]_ certigante mankon de dubsenceco. Algoritmoj regas ankaux la formadon el vortetoj de spactempaj vortoj; ekzemple: _puvi_=estis/faris en cxi tia punkto; _puzu_=estis/faris antaux longtempe; _vuvehu_=granda tridimensia regiono tie; _vuvehuzaizeho_=pasanta tre proksima al cxi tie. La origina celo de la loglana -- nome esploro pri la hipotezo de Whorf, ke lingvoformo enformigas pensmanieron -- dauxras interesi lojxbanistojn. Cxu la lojxbana lingvo estas paroleble aux ecx pensebla, ankoraux ne certas; tamen estas klare, ke multaj uzantoj de la lingvo jam malkovris la ebriigon de lingva artefarado. Informoj en la angla lingvo (presitaj kaj surdiskedaj) haveblas kontraux kostprezo de: The Logical Language Group, 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax, VA 22031, Usono. --------- Now, in English for you: During the past two years, logical language enthusiasts have succeeded in reviving an experimental language earlier made public by a 1960 article in the journal _Scientific American_. Based on the earlier _Loglan_ (a melding of English words with the meaning "Logical Language"), the extensively redone _lojbanic_ has not only a fully defined grammar, a basic vocabulary, and word-forming algorithms, but also an imposing collection of computer programs for syntactic parsing, learning the vocabulary, and production of sentences. Knowledge of mathematical logic is evident in the predicate forms of lojbanic base-words. For example, _klama_, used in the form "klama X Y Z" is defined as "to come/go to X from Y via Z". Little words _se_, _te_, _ve_, produce _seklama_ (destination), _teklama_ (origin), and _veklama_ (route). The sentence _mi djica le nuke do klama_ (word-for-word: "I want the happening of your coming/going"), according to an algorithm, parses to _mi djica [le nuke (do klama)]_, ensuring a lack of ambiguity. Algorithms also control the formation from little words of space-time words; for example: _puvi_=was/did at this point; _puzu_=was/did a long time ago; _vuvehu_=big three-dimensional region there; _vuvehuzaizeho_=passing very close to here. The original goal of Loglan -- namely exploration about the hypothesis of Whorf, that language-form affects manner of thought -- continues to interest lojbanists. Whether the lojbanic language is speakable or even thinkable is not yet certain; but it is clear, that many users of the language have already discovered the intoxication of language invention. Information in the English language (printed or on disk) are available for cost-price [?] from: [your address, etc.]