Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Sat, 8 Feb 92 02:26 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA13936; Fri, 7 Feb 92 20:35:34 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA21568; Fri, 7 Feb 92 19:53:40 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA08994; Fri, 7 Feb 92 19:09:44 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA01764; Fri, 7 Feb 92 18:06:18 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04047; Fri, 7 Feb 92 15:51:22 -0500 Message-Id: <9202072051.AA04047@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 6313; Fri, 07 Feb 92 15:22:18 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 6119; Fri, 07 Feb 92 15:21:46 EST Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1992 15:55:03 GMT Reply-To: CJ FINE Sender: Lojban list From: CJ FINE Subject: Re: Australian states X-To: Lojban list To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: ; from "61510::GILSON" at Feb 5, 92 12:43 pm Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Feb 8 02:26:15 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN > > Several of the Australian states have names that you probably simply want > to translate word-for-word, like South Australia, Western Australia, and New > South Wales. (However, translating Queensland by Lojban words that mean > "queen's land" probably should _not_ be done.) Similarly the Canadian > Province of Nova Scotia probably should be rendered as whatever means New > Scotland in Lojban; that's what the Canadians do themselves when rendering > it in French. Prince Edward Island also can be done by translating "prince" > and "island," since the French form of the name is handled that way too. > > Bruce > I wonder about these. In English we say "Novaya Zemlya", "Tokyo", "Nizhni Novgorod" and "Ile de France", not "New Land", "Eastern Capital", "Lower Newtown" and "French Island". kolin c.j.fine@bradford.ac.uk