Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Mon, 2 Mar 92 18:56 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA12441; Mon, 2 Mar 92 13:05:50 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA13231; Mon, 2 Mar 92 12:36:59 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA17327; Mon, 2 Mar 92 12:37:03 EST Message-Id: <9203021737.AA17327@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 1667; Mon, 02 Mar 92 12:35:21 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 5338; Mon, 02 Mar 92 12:33:11 EST Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 11:57:21 GMT Reply-To: CJ FINE Sender: Lojban list From: CJ FINE Subject: BAIbo grammar X-To: Lojban list To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Mar 2 18:56:32 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN I am confused about the use of tags (sumti tcita) in contexts other than terms. I recall the following exposition in one of the textbook lessons: ba le fasnu mi klama After the event, I go baku mi klama After (something unspecified), I go - Afterwards, I go mi ba klama I after-the-current-reference- point go Not in that exposition, but consistently: babo mi klama Then/next, I go I therefore want to construct this paradigm: ki'u le fasnu mi klama Because of the event, I go ki'uku mi klama Because (of something unspecified), I go - Therefore I go mi ki'u klama I because of the-currently- assumed-situation go - So I go ki'ubo mi klama So I go. But I observe various people using "seri'abo" and "seni'ibo" to mean "therefore", and not "because". What's going on? kolin c.j.fine@bradford.ac.uk