Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Wed, 11 Mar 92 20:41 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA01409; Wed, 11 Mar 92 18:09:46 EST Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA15635; Wed, 11 Mar 92 17:17:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9203112217.AA15635@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3111; Wed, 11 Mar 92 17:13:34 EST Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 PTF011) id 3862; Wed, 11 Mar 92 17:12:13 EST Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1992 11:22:31 EST Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: Place names X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: <9203090836.AA09214@relay1.UU.NET>; from "cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!nsn" at Mar 9, 92 6:33 pm Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Mar 11 20:41:26 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN la nitcion. cusku di'e > Well, um, how do I put this... I don't 100% buy the "as pronounced/named > by the natives" argument. ckiperia, maybe. But definitively {london} over > {lndn} (actually, this'd make a really good debate; I seem to remember > Colin (or was it And?) already being on the side on {london}. If you really want the "local pronunciation", I hear it as "ln,n". > hey, is [Magyar "gy"] a palatal stop (Upside-down f in IPA)? It's been only 4 > months since I found out Greek has one of those (dialect, of course, varies > the enunciations immensely). Yup. > bosnia - bosnian: la sara,evos. The usual transcription is "Sarajevo" which suggests "sara,ievos." > belorus - belorusa: la minsk Which way do we go on belo- vs. bela-? I have been seeing "Belarus" lately. > rumania - rumanias: la buxarest Definitely "ro-" here. The French started to write "Roumanie", god knows why, and propagated that error to most Western languages. "romanias." is the only thing that fits native-speaker intuition. -- cowan@snark.thyrsus.com ...!uunet!cbmvax!snark!cowan e'osai ko sarji la lojban