Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Wed, 25 Mar 92 01:55 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA23330; Wed, 25 Mar 92 00:04:55 EST Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA28813; Tue, 24 Mar 92 22:42:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9203250342.AA28813@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5939; Tue, 24 Mar 92 22:41:59 EST Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 ptf012) id 6730; Tue, 24 Mar 92 22:41:44 EST Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1992 22:39:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: A pair of how-do-i-say-it's X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: Chris Handley's message of Wed, 25 Mar 1992 09:51:29 GMT+1200 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Mar 25 01:55:43 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Chris Handley, in rejecting the proposed use of {ro bu'a zo'u} with {.ijo}: >No, I do not think so. It is not quantified over all relationships but >rather that there is one _specific_ (but unspecified) relationship which >links GB to USA in sort of the same way as JM is linked to UK (GB?). So then by John's magic theory that specified {bu'a} in prenices specifies over the predicate, not the x1, we get: le bu'a zo'u la buc. bu'a le merko gugde .ije(/whatever) la meidjr. bu'a le brito gugde for a particular relationship P: Bush P's US and Major P's UK 'Course, this begs the question of *which* P, bringing us right back where we started. Maybe the use of {le'e} or {lo'e} will help to indicate the one we want, but it's still beating around the bush (no pun intended). ~mark