Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 92 15:41 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA26054; Fri, 13 Mar 92 15:33:17 EST Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04150; Fri, 13 Mar 92 14:42:25 -0500 Message-Id: <9203131942.AA04150@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3473; Fri, 13 Mar 92 14:37:25 EST Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 PTF011) id 7872; Fri, 13 Mar 92 14:37:12 EST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 19:31:37 +0000 Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Subject: Re: Place names To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 09 Mar 92 18:33:34 W.) <4250.9203090840@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Fri Mar 13 15:41:22 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Nick quoting Ivan quoting Nick: > >> ckiper - ckiperia *or* albania - albanias: la tiranas > >_Albania_ is not the Albanian name for Albania. It shouldn't be used. > Well, um, how do I put this... I don't 100% buy the "as pronounced/named > by the natives" argument. ckiperia, maybe. But definitively {london} over > {lndn} (actually, this'd make a really good debate; I seem to remember > Colin (or was it And?) already being on the side on {london}. Yes, I reckon the Lojbanized names should (sometimes) use original spelling, where original spelling is in roman alphabet. After all, /lndn/ distorts both spelling and pronuciation, whereas /london/ distorts only pronunciation. > >> magiar - magiara: la budapect > >Make that {madiar}. It's closer. > hey, is that a palatal stop (Upside-down f in IPA)? Yes. --- And