From cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.bitnet!LOJBAN Wed Jun 17 09:48:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Wed, 17 Jun 92 09:48 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA05341; Wed, 17 Jun 92 07:30:58 EDT Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA08098; Wed, 17 Jun 92 06:52:59 -0400 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA26198; Wed, 17 Jun 92 06:21:26 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA02006; Wed, 17 Jun 92 06:12:50 EDT Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA29872; Wed, 17 Jun 92 02:20:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9206170620.AA29872@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5180; Wed, 17 Jun 92 02:19:31 EDT Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 ptf027) id 0001; Wed, 17 Jun 92 02:19:05 EDT Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1992 01:45:59 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: More Wind from the North X-To: iad@COGSCI.ED.AC.UK X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: RO X-Status: The fact that it is possible to come up with a situation where the semantics of kau get a little fuzzy does not mean that it isn't useful, especially since the English equivalents are none too clear either. The Lojban is at least as clear as English of the same length. As to your problems, I would use: I know who you know that comes mi djuno makau poi djuno ledu'u [ke'a] klama I know that you know who comes. mi djuno ledu'u do djuno tu'amakau poi klama (or perhaps the shorter) mi djuno ledu'u do djuno tu'a le klama My guess on mi djuno ledu'u do djuno ledu'u makau klama I know who it is that I know you know comes. lojbab