Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Wed, 3 Jun 92 00:59 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA18409; Wed, 3 Jun 92 00:28:01 EDT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA17215; Tue, 2 Jun 92 23:56:00 -0400 Message-Id: <9206030356.AA17215@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6229; Tue, 02 Jun 92 23:54:54 EDT Received: by UGA (Mailer R2.07) id 1244; Tue, 02 Jun 92 23:54:22 EDT Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1992 13:51:04 +1000 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU!nsn Sender: Lojban list From: cbmvax!uunet!MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU!nsn Subject: Re: North Wind tale X-To: Ivan A Derzhanski , lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 92 12:13:20 BST." Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jun 3 00:59:24 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Ivan on my NorWind thingy: >> >la berbif. joi la sol. puki darlu lejei ri jikau ra vlimau le drata kei >> Your method of "which is stronger" works okay <...> >I don't like it. What if there were more contestants? Suppose it >were the snow, the rain and the wind. Or suppose the twelve months of >the year were wondering which of them was the most important one. >Would you say {lejei rixipa jikau rixire jikau ... jikau rixipapa >jikau rixipare}? No. I don't know if you'll like what I'd prefer, but: {lejei [or: ledu'u] dakau no'u rixipa .a rixire .a ... .a rixipare}. Or, to kill those subscripts, {ledu'u leno'a po'u dakau}: the subject of the outside sentence *restricted to* the particular {da}. Yes, I know this is a kludge. {ledu'u dakau poi cmima le'ino'a} isn't much better either. It's one of these imperfect mappings of NL into First Order logic, methinks. Alternate insights welcome. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nick S. Nicholas, "Rode like foam on the river of pity Depts. of CompSci & ElecEng, Turned its tide to strength University of Melbourne, Australia. Healed the hole that ripped in living" nsn@{munagin.ee|mundil.cs}.mu.oz.au - Suzanne Vega, Book Of Dreams _______________________________________________________________________________