From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMB.BITNET!LOJBAN Tue Jul 7 00:04:58 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 7 Jul 92 00:04 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA13415; Tue, 7 Jul 92 00:05:33 EDT Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA00855; Mon, 6 Jul 92 23:44:15 -0400 Message-Id: <9207070344.AA00855@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9819; Mon, 06 Jul 92 23:32:26 EDT Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 ptf033) id 1945; Mon, 06 Jul 92 23:32:13 EDT Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1992 15:04:21 EDT Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: De-emphasis particle X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann Status: RO It was I who proposed the de-emphasis particle, and I now believe it was a mistake to do so. Based on Colin's Dagur commentary and Ivan's remarks, I think we should rip this sucker from the language before it puts down unwanted roots. OTOH, I think that Colin's topicalization particle is also unnecessary. The way to solve his problems is to assign a da-series particle in the prenex and then use it in the main bridi: da voi cmavo zo'u mi djica le nu lei lobypli vimcu da x1 described-as a-cmavo : I desire the event-of the-mass-of Lojban-users remove x1 As for this cmavo, I want us to remove it. -- cowan@snark.thyrsus.com ...!uunet!cbmvax!snark!cowan e'osai ko sarji la lojban