From cowan Tue Jul 28 10:54:54 1992 Subject: Re: NU variations To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu (Lojban List) From: John Cowan Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:54:54 EDT In-Reply-To: <9207271847.AA24070@relay1.UU.NET>; from "oasis.icl.co.uk!I.Alexander.bra0122" at Jul 27, 92 1:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Message-ID: la .i,n cusku di'e > Is there any real _semantic_ difference between > > lenu broda > le jai fau broda > le jai fi'o fasnu fe'u broda The last two are identical -- "fi'o" is designed to supply the place of a non-existent BAI, but of course there's nothing (except Zipf) preventing you from using it to replace an existing BAI. However, there is a difference between an event abstraction and an event modal place. "le nu broda" is "the event of ..." whereas "le jai fau broda" is "the event associated with ...". The event abstraction encapsulates the entire bridi, whereas the event modal place specifies a distinct event which is (in some vague way) associated with the main action: fau le nu fagri kei ko porpygau le glaci In the event of fire, break the glass! -- John Cowan cowan@snark.thyrsus.com ...!uunet!cbmvax!snark!cowan e'osai ko sarji la lojban.