Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:57 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA24612; Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:38:34 EDT Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA15718; Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:31:51 -0400 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA15161; Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:46:29 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA14359; Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:01:40 EDT Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA03134; Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:37:42 -0400 Message-Id: <9207301237.AA03134@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7765; Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:37:05 EDT Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 ptf037) id 5089; Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:36:04 EDT Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:51:22 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: no subject heading X-To: I.Alexander.bra0122@OASIS.ICL.CO.UK X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Jul 30 13:57:38 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.bitnet!LOJBAN Your response on fau may be correct in that it points up that it has rather loose and questionable semantics that may overlap other tags, but that is what it was put int he language to mean. "ca" seemed too specific. I can imagine someone writing a letter from Barcelona after the Olympics, say an article for the newspaper, which is reporting on the Olympics. Though the letter is not "ca" the olympics, it is "fau" the Olympics. I similarly think that, while most abstractions could be paraphrased as jai BAI/FIhO constructs, the reverse is not true - the things that are permitted to be labelled by the corresponding JAI construct are a superset of the abstractions. Still, it is plausible that new abstractions might implicitly be expressed in this way, just not as clearl{y.{ lojbab