Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Thu, 16 Jul 92 18:05 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA09200; Thu, 16 Jul 92 17:21:31 EDT Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA25875; Thu, 16 Jul 92 15:52:47 -0400 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA03608; Thu, 16 Jul 92 15:09:41 EDT Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA25309; Thu, 16 Jul 92 14:51:42 EDT Received: from pucc.Princeton.EDU by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA03153; Thu, 16 Jul 92 14:45:44 -0400 Message-Id: <9207161845.AA03153@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.Princeton.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1266; Thu, 16 Jul 92 14:44:58 EDT Received: by PUCC (Mailer R2.08 ptf034) id 9400; Thu, 16 Jul 92 14:40:34 EDT Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 19:30:49 BST Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!oasis.icl.co.uk!I.Alexander.bra0122 Sender: Lojban list From: cbmvax!uunet!oasis.icl.co.uk!I.Alexander.bra0122 Subject: RE: Cowan on relative clauses X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Jul 16 18:05:40 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.bitnet!LOJBAN doi djan. kau,n. ku'isai Surely "lo ci mi ctuca" is a bridi meaning "The three of us teach", not a sumti ("The teacher of the three of us"). is a sumti-tail in my copy of the grammar, and there doesn't appear to be any way of quantifying a preposed possessive. And I would interpret "ciboi mu denmikce" as "Three out of (a group of) five dentists", something like "There were five dentists, of whom three ...". (The inevitable typos: po -> poi steci po'e -> poi se ponse ) co'omi'e .i,n.