Return-Path: Message-Id: <9208290733.AA24175@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Sat Aug 29 10:42:38 1992 Reply-To: CJ FINE Sender: Lojban list From: CJ FINE Subject: Re: loi logji ja na'e logji lasnyvalsi zo'u X-To: I.Alexander.bra0122@OASIS.ICL.CO.UK X-Cc: Lojban list To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: ; from "I.Alexander.bra0122@UK.CO.ICL.OASIS" at Aug 28, 92 2:50 pm Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Aug 29 10:42:38 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.bitnet!LOJBAN Good clear lojban, except for the last part, where I got lost even on several readings. I think my problems were twofold: 1) I didn't know what to make of "tai", and indeed, looking at your translation I don't think "mintu ... tai" is what you mean: they're not 'the same by means of', they're 'the same as can be shown by means of'. 2) I don't think you mean 'nu darlu', though I can't find a better one (to be fair, it's partly me - I missed the 'nu'). I have for a long time been correcting other people's "je" to various things, including "ja". I'm disturbed by your equivalence of an internal conjunction and an external disjunction, but I really can't see anything wrong with it. I *think* it's an artifact of universal quantification. Incidentally, the picky would prefer "lo pritu jonai xunle", but I'm not one of them.