Return-Path: Message-Id: <9208200151.AC29793@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Thu Aug 20 01:28:07 1992 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!mullian.ee.mu.oz.au!nsn Sender: Lojban list From: cbmvax!uunet!mullian.ee.mu.oz.au!nsn Subject: David Young's text X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Cc: nsn@ee.mu.oz.au To: John Cowan Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Aug 20 01:28:07 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.bitnet!LOJBAN >.i ko'a goi le nanmu >.i ko'e goi le nanmu .ije ko'a do nai ko'e I think you mean {du nai}, which isn't grammatical either: {na du} (the reason {du nai} isn't grammatical is that it would introduce an ambiguity: mi du .uu nai do = mi du (.uu nai) do; mi (du (.uu) nai) do. >.i ko'a cu minde le jenmi >.i ko'e cu minde le su'ore sonci .ije ko'a cu minde ko'e There's X; There's Y. X commands the army (to do something). Y commands some of the soldiers ("[some] soldiers" would be su'ore [le] sonci) (to do something), and X commands Y (to do something). minde is adequate, but I'd prefer jatna, in its new definition as leader. >.i ko'a .e ko'e cu nenri le kerfa nunkatna zarci >.i ko'a .e ko'e puze lifri le flira kerfa vimcu ^^^^ puzi ^^ lenu X and Y are in the haircutting shop. X and Y have just experienced a shave (without the {nu}, they experience a shaver). >.i le velzarci cu friti zoi zoi after shave lotion zoi fi ko'a shave lotion? firkrevi'u litki isn't quite it... >.i ko'a bacru lu .aunai ko punji le panci fi mi .ije le selspeni po mi > ku'o ba jinvi le nu mi pu nenri le gletu zarci li'u There's been a colossal unresolved debate on what UI+NAI means inside a sentence. *I*'d interpret this as "I don't want you to, but...", and would instead say {.aunai ko na punji} (= I don't want this; don't do it) I'd say se panci rather than panci: the odor source, rather than the odor, is being applied. The terminal of {po} is {ge'u}, not {ku'o}. *chuckle* Nice story. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nick S. Nicholas, "Rode like foam on the river of pity Depts. of CompSci & ElecEng, Turned its tide to strength University of Melbourne, Australia. Healed the hole that ripped in living" nsn@{munagin.ee|mundil.cs}.mu.oz.au - Suzanne Vega, Book Of Dreams ______________________________________________________________________________