From @uga.cc.uga.edu:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Thu Sep 17 16:31:47 1992 Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 17 Sep 1992 16:31:46 -0400 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8859; Thu, 17 Sep 92 16:30:39 EDT Received: by UGA (Mailer R2.08 PTF008) id 7931; Thu, 17 Sep 92 16:30:38 EDT Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1992 20:02:17 BST Reply-To: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK Sender: Lojban list From: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK Subject: Re: TECH.QUERY: zo bancu cu mo zo zmadu leka smuni X-To: shoulson@CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: Message-ID: other in the remarks field. Here are the definitions I have: > > bancu "beyond" x1 exceeds/is beyond x2 in property x3 (ka) > zmadu "more" x1 exceeds x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by amount x4 > > >From those defs, the only differences I see are that (1) {zmadu}'s x3 place > can take {ni} as well as {ka}, which doesn't seem to be very much; I > imagine {bancu} really ought to be able to take {ni} as well. (2) {zmadu} > has an x4 place for amount, which seems to be the only real difference. > > Now, I'm not trying to reopen the klama vs. cliva place-deletion debate, > but I personally can't see how you can exceed something by no amount. > Maybe someone can explain the difference between these two gismu; they seem > to be redundant to me. > They seem so to me too Colin