From @uga.cc.uga.edu:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Tue Oct 20 11:16:00 1992 Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 16:42:40 -0400 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2175; Tue, 20 Oct 92 16:40:56 EDT Received: by UGA (Mailer R2.08 PTF008) id 3419; Tue, 20 Oct 92 16:40:55 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 15:16:00 EDT Reply-To: "(John Cowan)" Sender: Lojban list From: "(John Cowan)" Subject: Re: CAFE.INT.REV zoi pu. le kafybarja po'u la jbolaz. pu X-To: uunet!cuvmb.bitnet!LOJBAN@uunet.UU.NET To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: Message-ID: On "ze'apu naje ca"; this is indeed grammatical, and probably even preferable to "ze'apunai je ca", since "-nai" is generally understood to negate the preceding word only. Since "punai" is defined to be a contradictory negation (negating the whole bridi of which this is the tense), its use here is confusing. The fact is that PU+nai and its analogue FAhA+nai are warts left over from Loglan, and should probably be eschewed in all but the simplest constructs.