From @uga.cc.uga.edu:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Thu Dec 3 22:59:25 1992 Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 3 Dec 1992 18:04:02 -0500 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7516; Thu, 03 Dec 92 18:00:04 EST Received: from UGA.BITNET by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (Mailer R2.08 PTF008) with BSMTP id 8371; Thu, 03 Dec 92 18:00:03 EST Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1992 22:59:25 +0000 Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Subject: addendum X-To: lojban@cuvma.BITNET To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: Message-ID: I have just posted a message 'arguing' that John's distributive interp makes more sense than the nondistrib. I was taking _je_ to mean 'and', but after reading Colin, I am wondering whether 'cum' might be a better translation, so rather than 'wolf and man curse' we have 'wolf-cum-man curse'. In this case, I now find the nondistrib reading more natural. Would anyone care to explain to me what exactly _je_ means? I find it most surprising that there could be ambiguity between _wolf je man curse_ and _metal je book shelf_. Is one permitted to say _metal .e book shelf_? If _wolf je man_ really means 'wolf-cum-man', how is this different from _wolf man_? That is, _wolf-cum-man curse_ seems pretty much the same as ((wolf man) curse), though of course not the same as (wolf (man curse)). I do hope that readers of the list will forgive my not taking being well-informed as a precondition of my contributing! --- And.