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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 09:20:48 GMT
From: I.Alexander.bra0125@oasis.icl.co.uk
Subject: TECH: Indirect commands (RE: Pro-sumti/pro-bridi paper, draft 1.1)
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> {mi cusku le [se] du'u ko sidju mi} ... "Make me ask you for help"

No, surely not.  That's more like "Make me say that you help me".
"I ask you for help" is {mi cpedu lenu [do] sidju [mi] kei do},
so "Make me ask you for help" would be
{mi cpedu lenu sidju kei ko}.

Of course, {cpedu} could have been lots of other gismu
depending on the flavour of command
({minde}, {stidi}, {pikci}).

I'm not sure that you really need an "indirect speech"
form for this, but if you did, you could try

        mi cpedu cusku le sedu'u do sidju mi

or

        mi cusku le cpedu sedu'u do sidju mi

or

        mi cusku le sedu'u do.e'o sidju mi

mi'e .i,n.