From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:54:37 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 30 Mar 1993 06:50:56 -0500 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1186; Tue, 30 Mar 93 06:49:37 EST Received: from CUVMB.BITNET by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5795; Tue, 30 Mar 93 06:50:54 EST Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 12:45:23 BST Reply-To: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK Sender: Lojban list From: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK Subject: Re: TECH: grammar updates To: Erik Rauch Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Tue Mar 30 06:50:56 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Message-ID: <2SOvbjgXGJL.A.4y.t20kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org> la djan. cusku di'e > Probably true. However, I await your lujvo for "battery", as per Nick's > concerns: a battery is a {sorcu}, but doesn't need a location; it is a > {sorcu be fo ne'e}. Point taken. My immediate response is to wonder whether 'sorcu' should have the location as a tergismu: batteries are not the only kind of portable sorcu. (What about a tool-box?) Pragmatically, you have convinced me that ne'e is worth having. But it is yet another in the list of things that pe'i need a large red health warning saying "ko denpa fi lepu'e camjundi pensi lonu pilno ti" ('Think very hard before using this') > > BTW, I just noticed that an alternative to {ne'e} for this use would be {zi'a} , > {zi'i}, {zi'o}, or {zi'u}, all recently freed with the abolition of ziheks. > These would have the advantage of sharing an initial letter with {zo'e} and > {zu'i}. Comments? .ieru'e "zi'u" would be best, as a kind of inverse of "zu'i" Colin