From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Wed Mar 17 08:34:03 1993 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 17 Mar 1993 13:35:34 -0500 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8773; Wed, 17 Mar 93 13:34:25 EST Received: from CUVMB.BITNET by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 0374; Wed, 17 Mar 93 13:35:30 EST Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 13:34:03 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: phonetic irregularity X-To: wil@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: O Message-ID: I think that "doe" and "woe" rhyme also. So do Lojban "do" and "uo". In the diphthong, the "u" is acting as the semivowel form, which is "w". The important thing is to not do the normal diphthongization practice of English, which is to slop your "o" into ending with a "u" glide, which might be heard as "o,u". Thus, improper for "do" would be "do,u". Keep the "o" short, and if necessary, a bit clipped. lojbab