From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU  Sat Mar  6 22:55:25 2010
Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 04:05:27 -0500
Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)    with BSMTP id 8806; Wed, 03 Mar 93 04:01:44 EST
Received: from CUVMB.BITNET by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP  id 9645; Wed, 03 Mar 93 04:07:35 EST
Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1993 09:07:01 GMT
Reply-To: I.Alexander.bra0125@oasis.icl.co.uk
Sender: Lojban list <LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU>
From: I.Alexander.bra0125@OASIS.ICL.CO.UK
Subject:      RE: TECH: Goats' legs and counting
X-To:         lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu
To: Erik Rauch <erikr@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Status: OR
X-From-Space-Date: Wed Mar  3 09:07:01 1993
X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET
Message-ID: <rjV_mtKbUpE.A.8BB.d30kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org>

cu'u la djan.
> "next outer" (metaphor of nested Russian dolls) = "1 level up" (metaphor of
> [inverted] trees).  What interpretation of "outer" did you have in mind?

Sorry, my problem wasn't with "one level up"
vs. "next outer", it was with "bridi" vs. "selbri".
I didn't think the word "bridi" applied
to the body of a description.


doi .iVAN.

Zero may be as good a number as any other,
but it's not _quite_ as simple as that.
There are lot's of other PA,
and some of them have other quantification
implications, e.g. {ro}.
The quantification properties we ascribe to various
PA are a matter of pragmatics and convention,
so we could in principle treat zero
differently from other numbers.
Having said that,
it's probably more sensible if all the
_definite_ numbers behave consistently.

mi'e .i,n.