From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:52:34 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1993 00:40:48 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7322; Fri, 23 Apr 93 00:40:26 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4597; Fri, 23 Apr 93 00:41:11 EST Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 00:39:20 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Navaho (was: version declaration for le lojbau) X-To: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Thu Apr 22 20:39:20 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Message-ID: I'm not sure that Colin's pseudo-lujvo of name-zei-brivla meet the morpholog- gical rules of the language, even if they are grammatically OK. Names not marked preceding with "la" or "doi" or grammatically where 'any-word' is allowed as in 'zoi' quotes and la'o names, are theoretical subject to being absorbed into a preceding word (or absorbuing a preceding word). On the other hand, in theory, pausing before a name will always delimit it. This is an effect of the morphology and might permit such odd uses of names where they are otherwise forbidden. But I tend to discourage it - I don't want to see the language drift towards, for example, pause-headed vocatives instead of vocatives marked with 'doi'. Still, we allow name+bu, so I guess the morphology processor should accept name+zei+brivla. But the purpose of zei was to allow le'avla to be used in compounds, not names, and I am less than compelled to support stretching a rule formulation to its logical extreme, as these pseudo lujvo seem to be doing. Turning the name into a le'avla is a better approach than leaving it in the morphologically risky yet not necessarily any better (at matching the original word), then making the name into a le'avla. lojbab