From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:51:50 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 6 May 1993 17:14:26 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3948; Thu, 06 May 93 17:13:55 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9619; Thu, 06 May 93 17:14:44 EST Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 17:12:31 -0400 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: TECH: experimental cmavo "xo'e" X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: Iain Alexander's message of Thu, 6 May 1993 15:56:20 BST X-From-Space-Date: Thu May 6 13:12:31 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Message-ID: <-9uLhsRsj0N.A.y5H.G00kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org> >Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 15:56:20 BST >From: Iain Alexander >X-To: c.j.fine@bradford.ac.uk >X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu >> zbasu fixo'e >> means >> x1 is made/built/assembled of/from x2, but I am denying the >> existence, or at least the relevance, of any maker. >Well, actually, my copy of the gimste has >zbasu zba make >x1 makes/assembles/builds/manufactures/creates x2 out of materials x3 >in which case this particular one's denying the existence of any >material out of which it is made, which is a bit easier to comprehend. Well, isn't that just {zbasu fi noda}? There *is* a difference between {xo'e} and {noda}, but defining it is not easy. ~mark