Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 01:53:04 EDT From: lojbab@grebyn.com (Logical Language Group) Message-Id: <9306140553.AA05254@grebyn.com> To: 91909372@bradford.ac.uk, cowan@snark.thyrsus.com, nsn@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au Subject: lujvo in JL18 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Jl18 is approximately done, and runs a long 90 pages, since I am cutting off work as of tomorrow to get the dictionary moving. Texts include Colin's Princess, editor de jour Nick (whose comments probably warranted correcting, but I just put them in JL) and 3 pieces by Nick that all badly needed an editor de jour. Two failed to parse and 1 had two nonexistent gismu (the parse errors were easy to correct, but they should have been corrected before I got to the text) Nick's coffeehouse piece was, I suspect, too stylistically complex even for his Lojban skills. There was little I could do to improve it, and that ain't my job any more, so I just did my best at formatting it. I wasn;t happy with the result, as is evident in my commentary. I'll send both texts to all 3 of you, and this message includes a complete list of all lujvo I located in the issue, and my manually remade forms for each based on the new rafsi (Nora has a program mostly done to do auto replacement, but hasn't tested it.) Following are the lujvo - if no second entry, the lujvo is unchanged Effects of rafsi changes on JL18 Lojban text Changes from miscellaneous lujvo scattered through the issue bajykla - be'ipre beipre besmoi benmro blari'o - bromalsi - cabdei - ckafybarja (kafybarja legal, but not changed) cticinza - cucycau - drutapla - dzukla - dzuli'u - jelspo - jiksre - jvozba - menmikce - mrudakfu - musymalsi - nelcyrai nelrai ni'ablo - nolraitruti'u - nunydji - nunynau - po'aspo - po'ertutra - prujeftu - rartapla - remso'a - remtsi - samymrilu samymri (was legal this way before) selgadri - selgadrypau selgadypau (was legal) seljbo - seljerna - selklama selkla (was legal) selpinxe - selyle'avla - sfeni'ablo - taktapla - tanrypau taurpau terklama terkla (was legal) tertanru tertau terzu'e - velciksi velcki xisymalsi - zalre'u - zaltapla - zdabartu - zdanei zdane'i zdasta - lujvo in Nick's and Colin's feature texts bakplixa - bangrdanska - bavlamdei - birtu'ucau - birvrajvi - bracau ca'arcau cabdei - cadykei - cairmau - camcilce - cermurse - cesto'edapma cestoldapma cevzda (ceizda ranks higher by algorithm, but not changed) cibdei - ckabukpu ckabu'u ckazbe - ckuso'u ckusro cpesku - ctacarna - cucti'e - cucyzbi - cutyzu'e cu'urzu'e daptutra - datkypi'u - demxa'e - depci'o depcni dukri'a - frasku - ga'orbi'o - gacykicne gairki'e ganga'i ga'orga'i gaxkafke gaxykafke (xk not permissible medial) ge'utro gletro girvlici'e - grusypre ruspre (corresponding changes made in Nick's text spelling) grusytau rusta'u grusyxirmyxemklarusxirxemkla (I did not know how to handle Nick's capital- -ization of this word - the previous version was invalid, since he capitalized two syllables, in violation of the stress rules. Of course, I'm not sure why he made it a lujvo - as separate words, he could have done emphasis properly, with ba'e (in Lojban stress is not the way to imply emphasis) jbuboikei - jdadapma - jdaxanmu'u - jikfazgau - juntytri - jurja'o - kafybarja - kalsydzu kasydzu karbi'o - kazyjikca kamjikca kelkansa - kelkarda - klagau - klakansa - kosycre kosycreka (if all Nick's shirt compounds had made it into the rafsi calculations, certu might not have displaced it for 'cre'. But I think the change is for the better, even if the vagaries of fashion take more syllables to explicate. kucyga'a - larkumfa larku'a laurxajmypre laurxampre malmliselgu'i - malxlu - midydo'i - mipstu - mliburna - mlifanza - mulgau - nairske naiske nalkalsa - nalri'i - nalzva - nercre nercreka nicygai - nolrainanla - nolraitru - nolraixli - notcre notcreka notcrida - nunsitna - patlu'i paltylu'i (I suggested ctitcilu'i as a better metaphor) plisytricu - plitadji - plokarlycre plokarlycreka prucedra - purlamcte (prulamcte better by scoring algorithm - not changed) purpla (prupla better by scoring algorithm - not changed) rarske - relcisrampre relcinpampre relmomcte relmoicte sairkicne sraki'e samsnuci'e - sancrfrikative - seizdakla seirzdakla (error - hyphen required after CVV in first position of 3+ rafsi compounds selca'o - selcmi - selcru selba'u selcu'u selsku (Colin's failure to change this one made me wonder whether he had seen Nick's comments, since Nick caught the misuse of cu'u for cusku) seldji - seljdadji - seljde - selkecmlu - seltai seltra selte'a - seltro - selxagmau (selxaumau scores higher by scoring algorithm, not changed) selzda - sezycu'u seisku (another erroneous cu'u) sfacatra - simfra - simtipyda'a - sipku'a - so'irnanca sorna'a ta'uvro tcavro tedykerfa tedykre (but don't ask me what it was supposed to mean) to'ercitno tolci'o truspe - tsame'a - tsise'a (I suggest some alternates in comments on the text) velji'a - vi'ecpe - viltcima vilti'a vresaikicne vresraki'e xadmidju - xadyti'e - xaufri - xaupre - xavycte - xemkla - xlapre - zdidabysnu - zmitai zmitra lojbab