From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Wed Aug 4 20:02:12 1993 Received: from MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 5 Aug 1993 00:04:29 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 5 Aug 1993 00:04:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199308050404.AA16678@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5234; Thu, 05 Aug 93 00:03:16 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3487; Thu, 05 Aug 93 00:04:43 EDT Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 00:02:12 EDT Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: query re. selcmavo NU X-To: ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: mi ne pu do uses a relative phrase, rather than a relative clause, hence has no capability for a resumptive pronoun. the equivalent relative clause requires converting pu to its corresponding selbri, whihc then requires dragging abstractions into it since the places of purci are events, and the event beig related is not mi and do, but what we are doing. Thus the above would be reexpressed as mi noi [tu'a {ke'a=mi}] purci tu'a do (cu klama le zarci) lojbab