From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Thu Aug 5 11:12:30 1993 Received: from MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 5 Aug 1993 05:13:31 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Thu, 5 Aug 1993 05:13:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199308050913.AA00243@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5772; Thu, 05 Aug 93 05:12:20 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4506; Thu, 05 Aug 93 05:13:51 EDT Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 10:12:30 +0100 Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: Jorge's text (Was: On the tense system of ZAhO) To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: Lojbab asks: ++++++++++++> Are you perhaps confusing .uunai with .u'unai? .uunai would be to'e kecti the opposite of pity, which I see as a certian sense of "cruelty" .u'unai with be the opposite of regret which is defined in the list as innocence, with lack of regret being in the middle. >++++++++++ Perhaps so. I think I have had difficulty keeping 'uu' and 'u'u' apart (perhaps under the inlfuence of loglan uu) and I had certainly forgotten the keyword 'pity' - I thought more of 'sorrow'. But as for negated UI - the keywords in the list are useful for reminding you what the spectrum is of the particular UI, but sometimes they are not adequate translations. What I'm saying is that , as with everything else, it is a mistake to pick up a string of cmavo that is glossed as 'cruelty' and use it without thinking about its derivation. Colin