From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Mon Aug 23 19:11:30 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 23 Aug 1993 23:12:53 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 23 Aug 1993 23:12:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199308240312.AA04438@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9683; Mon, 23 Aug 93 23:11:28 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9808; Mon, 23 Aug 93 23:14:13 EDT Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 23:11:30 EDT Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: a usage problem, and a solution??? X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: I have notice in Lojban conversation that I frequently start saying something, finish the x1 sumti and get to the selbri, only to realize that I needed to make it a raised sumti with tu'a. There is no after thought verion of tu'a though there may be a way if using Nick's version of sumti-raising in this way (Nick???). It occurs to me that there are two similar ways,each with its own semantics problems. One is to just end the sentence by going .i tu'a ri, which leaves you with a dangling sumti. Another is to end the sumti wth a zo'u making it a prenex (and thus at least implicitly a 'topic' for the sentence) and then going tu'ari. Opinions??? lojbab