From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Fri Aug 27 13:35:31 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:35:31 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:35:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199308271735.AA11424@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8477; Fri, 27 Aug 93 13:33:51 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9857; Fri, 27 Aug 93 13:36:25 EDT Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 09:28:05 BST Reply-To: I.Alexander.bra0125@oasis.icl.co.uk Sender: Lojban list From: Iain Alexander Subject: Re: TECH: Nec (Was: QUERY: quantifier scope & cumki) X-To: cowan X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: la djan. kau,n. cusku di'e > Ah, but you've been caught by the sting in the tail, namely that > nec (a = a .implies. nec a = a) is a theorem, or in plain English, > "Identity holds necessarily if it holds at all". So nec 9 = #-of-planets. > This takes us right into the theory of rigid and non-rigid designators, > and all kinds of related grief. Quine dumps this by just saying that Nec > is a sentence operator which applies to quoted sentences. This limits you > in the inferences you can make, but it also prevents nonsense. It looks like I'm getting rapidly out of my depth here, at least for the time being. I shall simply reserve my right to choose my own axioms. :) ca banzu fe'o mi'e .i,n.