From nsn  Sat Mar  6 22:49:47 2010
From: nsn (Nick Nicholas)
Subject: Re: gi'uste lujvo
To: lojbab@grebyn.com (Logical Language Group)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 15:34:38 +1000 (EST)
Cc: nsn (Nick Nicholas)
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To Logical Language Group respond I thus:

#If you don't like my lujvo proposals, you are
#welcome to suggest alternatives - I generally have included them where I
#did because I thought that it clarified some aspect of the gismumeaning.

Where I did not like a lujvo, I included my counterproposal immediately
under it in my list, which is ordered in the order in which I found the
lujvo in the gi'uste. Thus dickansa --- which is something accompanying
electricity, and has the wrong sense of 'with'; I counterproposed dicydenmi,
I believe.

#If you don;t like them, they should be replaced by better ones or deleted.

#If the shape
#must be seltai, noting a comment you made on another word, we probably
#should find a way to reverse the place structure since the shape metaphor is
#one of the major uses of tarmi in lujvo, bith present and future.  Does
#this track with the other tai based lujvo?

the -tai/-seltai distinction is that most frequent stumbling-block for
lujvo-makers which gives rise to the whole xekskapi controversy --- noun
vs. adjective tertanru. sovytai means egg-shape (ellipse); sovyseltai
means egg-shaped (elliptical). I interpreted ovoid to mean the latter,
but I see it can equally mean the former. The shape itself is certainly
the -tai form; but recall that, if we are to talk about concrete objects
with a certain shape, rather than the geometrical abstraction of the
shape themselves, then we should use -seltai (or se.... -tai). Or do I
misconstrue the place structure of tarmi? Because this is a lujvo-independent
issue; it holds just as much for gismu per se: egg-shape: ti tarmi le'e
sovda; egg-shaped: ti se tarmi lo sovda simsa, ti se tarmi la'e lo'e sovda.

Thanks for your help in all matters lujvoic.

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