From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:49:41 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 23:32:08 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4696; Mon, 02 Aug 93 23:30:59 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 0076; Mon, 02 Aug 93 23:32:04 EDT Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 23:29:53 EDT Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: query re. selcmavo NU X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Ukn Aug 2 23:32:09 1993 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab@GREBYN.COM Message-ID: You can say something to disambiguate the ka from the nu, but not what you said, which is grammatical but - well - weird %^) mi nu prenu = mi nu [zo'e prenu] I am an event of something being a person (I hope you are a person and not an event - but maybe you are ... Hmmm.) vs. the corresponding ... I am a property of something being a person ( I am SURE that you are not a property, even if you ARE an event %^) You want nu mi klama ka mi klama which are predicates in observative form, a form suggested whenever the English is "there is", which might in Lojban be formally rendered as ba zo'u ba [... broda ...] There exists some x such that x is a broda lojbab