From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:49:50 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sun, 1 Aug 1993 22:06:25 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8738; Sun, 01 Aug 93 22:05:10 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8186; Sun, 01 Aug 93 22:06:44 EDT Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 22:03:42 EDT Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: On the tense system X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Ukn Aug 1 22:06:26 1993 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab@GREBYN.COM Message-ID: The simple explanation of the ZAhO tenses is to look at a non-instantaneous event. ba'o is the time after the event, pu'o is the time before the event. All of the other ZAhO tenses are similarly tied to an interval of the even actually occurring, which I picture like this pu'o -> | <---- ca'o ---> | <-- ba'o | | The metaphor of the pictured event far predated the Imaginary Journeys metaphor, and led tot he assignments of cmavo. pu'o like pu refers to the time before the event, ba'o like ba refers to the time after the event. Unfortunately in actual usage people don't seem to be referring to events when they use the contours, and the result is that the tags seem backwards. lojbab