Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:51:11 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:51:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199308141251.AA01610@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4501; Sat, 14 Aug 93 08:49:54 EDT Received: from YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@YALEVM) by YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1451; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:49:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 19:46:23 +1000 Reply-To: Nick Nicholas Sender: Lojban list From: Nick Nicholas Subject: Re: TECH: Bytes and bits X-To: Lojban Mailing List To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Sat Aug 14 08:51:11 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Another issue on which I've been having a think. I agree with F. Baube[tm] that computer implementation shouldn't be part of the definition of a bit; it is, after all, a binary digit (etymologically too!), and was first used in communication theory. I propose we call it a truth-quantum: jetka'u. Now back to bytes. I do still think they are selci, because (prototypically) they are the smallest units of memory distinctly identifiable as such, and because they are the building blocks of memory architecture. A selci, I take it, is indivisible *on a given level of analysis*; thus a xuksle is a molecule, even though it is divisible into atoms, because molecules, not atoms, are the smallest instances of the given chemical as such. What I've just described, though, isn't really a byte; more like a word. What of a byte? Well the Esperantists have accepted 'bajto', but alongside it, as a kind of protest, they also have 'bitoko': eight-bit. Given my distaste for PA-lujvo misused, could we admit bivjetka'u as a properly used lujvo (or at least, an obvious abbreviation of jetka'ubivmoi)? ******************************************************************************* A freshman once observed to me: Nick Nicholas am I, of Melbourne, Oz. On the edge of the Rubicon, nsn@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au (IRC: nicxjo) men don't go fishing. CogSci and CompSci & wannabe Linguist. - Alice Goodman, _Nixon In China_ Mail me! Mail me! Mail me! Or don't!!