Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 1993 22:32:31 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 1993 22:32:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199308170232.AA03822@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2190; Mon, 16 Aug 93 22:31:11 EDT Received: from YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@YALEVM) by YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6798; Mon, 16 Aug 1993 22:31:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 22:30:48 EDT Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Cupfuls (Was: Some how do you say it's) X-To: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Mon Aug 16 18:30:48 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET I agree with Colin that capfuls, and all other measurement words, should have place structures consistent with the gismu measurement words. The x1 is the thing that is being measured, and the x2 (and possibly x3 if subunits) should be the number of units with a default of 1 (subunits default of 0 of course). There is one measurement unit, can't remember which one, that has one extra place. The benefit of this type of place structure is that it supports two waysthings are typically measured: ci kabrylai is three things measuring 1 cup [pa] kabrylai li ci is one thing measureing 3 cups. The former, it turns out was used tonight in Lojban conversation here, as Albion Zeglin was talking about baking lo titnanba. lojbab