Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 30 Aug 1993 23:49:00 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 30 Aug 1993 23:48:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199308310348.AA00574@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9897; Mon, 30 Aug 93 23:47:28 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 7067; Mon, 30 Aug 93 23:50:13 EDT Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 13:47:40 +1000 Reply-To: Nick Nicholas Sender: Lojban list From: Nick Nicholas Subject: Re: TECH: a few proposals anent attitudinals X-To: snark!cowan@GVLS1.VFL.PARAMAX.COM X-Cc: Lojban Mailing List To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: from "John Cowan" at Aug 30, 93 10:40:17 am Status: O X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Tue Aug 31 23:47:40 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET To John Cowan respond I thus: #The memory hook for "ba'a" is "balvi", which is why the future position is #taken to be the "positive" one. Should "ba'a" be reversed to get the past #on the left, as it were? Should a new cmavo be assigned in that case? Hardly worthwhile. I say no. The fact that some cultures do not associate the past with the left is not of prime importance; more like "it doesn't seem particularly broke, don't fix it." #As can be seen, these scales are oppositely aligned: "va'i" corresponds #to "ke'unai", and "ke'u" to "va'inai". Should one be changed to match the #other? If so, "va'i" is the natural one to change, because its memory hook #is just "valsi" whereas "ke'u" is tied to "krefu". OTOH, "va'i" has seen #some use, both on the net and in print -- it's used in one of Nora's cartoons. I have less strong an opposition to this one; don't care either way. va'i hasn't been used that much. Can't see the harm in changing it, I suppose. ******************************************************************************* A freshman once observed to me: Nick Nicholas am I, of Melbourne, Oz. On the edge of the Rubicon, nsn@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au (IRC: nicxjo) men don't go fishing. CogSci and CompSci & wannabe Linguist. - Alice Goodman, _Nixon In China_ Mail me! Mail me! Mail me! Or don't!!