Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 23:44:39 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 23:44:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199308190344.AA00438@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2113; Wed, 18 Aug 93 23:43:20 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9999; Wed, 18 Aug 93 23:45:52 EDT Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 13:42:26 +1000 Reply-To: Nick Nicholas Sender: Lojban list From: Nick Nicholas Subject: TECH: bramau booboo X-To: Lojban Mailing List To: Erik Rauch Status: O X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Thu Aug 19 23:42:26 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Ah, gentlemen and others :) , a sudden realisation. Take bramau, which means bigger. barda (big) has three arguments: x1 is big in quality x2 by standard x3. Thus an elephant is {barda fi loi remna}, but {to'e barda fi loi plini}. zmadu (more) has places x1 is more than x2 in quality x3 by quantity x4. The place structure I've been using for bramau is: z1 z2 b2 b3 z4: X is bigger than Y in Z, standard W, by amount V. But the standard of bigness is irrelevant, isn't it. An elephant is big compared to humans, and small compared to planets, but this has nothing to to with the fact that it is bigger than a rhino, which it is whether you think of planets or mice as a norm. Having realised this, your subject rushes off to revise his list... ******************************************************************************* A freshman once observed to me: Nick Nicholas am I, of Melbourne, Oz. On the edge of the Rubicon, nsn@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au (IRC: nicxjo) men don't go fishing. CogSci and CompSci & wannabe Linguist. - Alice Goodman, _Nixon In China_ Mail me! Mail me! Mail me! Or don't!!