Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:21:04 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:20:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199308141220.AA01440@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4460; Sat, 14 Aug 93 08:19:45 EDT Received: from YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@YALEVM) by YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1330; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:19:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 08:22:22 -0400 Reply-To: vilva@viikki21.helsinki.fi Sender: Lojban list From: VILVA@VIIKKI21.HELSINKI.FI Subject: A few thoughts more about ZAhO X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Sat Aug 14 04:22:22 1993 X-From-Space-Address: @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Saying le dacti ca ba'o zasti states that the object is now in the aftermath of existing which is almost like saying le dacti ca na zasti except that it also explicitly states that the object has existed some time before: "The object doesn't exist anymore". Indirectly it sets the present to some point in time following the cessation of the existence of the object. There are a few idioms in English which are structurally very near: He was now past caring. co'o mi'e veion ------------------------------------------------------------------ Veijo Vilva vilva@viikki21.helsinki.fi