From jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Ukn Aug 2 12:16:32 1993 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 12:16:26 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1518; Mon, 02 Aug 93 12:15:00 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3641; Mon, 02 Aug 93 12:16:13 EDT Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 12:12:21 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: On the tense system X-To: lojbab@grebyn.com X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: Message-ID: lojbab: > The metaphor of the pictured event far predated the Imaginary Journeys > metaphor, and led tot he assignments of cmavo. pu'o like pu refers to > the time before the event, ba'o like ba refers to the time after the event. This is true only when used as sumti tcita. As tenses, pu refers to the time before the referece point, not before the event itself. And as sumti tcita, the rules for the semantics of each are different anyway, so it's not that meaningful to compare them. I will study the longer posting and comment later. Jorge