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From: Nick Nicholas <nsn@MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: TECH: SE rafsi omitted in lujvo (was Re: dikyjvo, too,
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The Seraphim surely rejoiced when Logical Language Group spoke thus:

#After thinking about it, I am inclined to agree with you - with one provision:
#xekskapi can be a perfectly good word, but it has the places implied by the
#final term, which are backwards to the English.  X is the black skin of Y
#or X is the skin of black (person?) Y.  This should be allowed as an
 alternative
#and may be preferred in some cases, since you end up with the same places
#(I think) just in a non-standard order. [...]
#se xekskapi might be preferable to xekselskapi
#especially if there is frequent occassion to fill in both places instead of
#1, if the final term is one that already tends to be "fa"d like cumki, or
#maybe iun general when the word is used more in a main selbri than in a
#description.

You're quite right, with one proviso: places tend to be elided out as
irrelevant in lujvo (well, I tend to, anyway), and this is much easier to
do in a xekselskapi form than a se xekskapi form, since the place in particular
I want to elide out as irrelevant is le skapi! But then, that is not "frequent
occasion to fill in both places instead of one", so we are not in essential
disagreement.

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