From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:49:53 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:11:23 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2361; Mon, 02 Aug 93 14:10:13 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4701; Mon, 02 Aug 93 14:10:54 EDT Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 19:08:35 +0100 Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: On the tense system To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Ukn Aug 2 14:11:25 1993 X-From-Space-Address: C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK Message-ID: <1NGO6LtVshL.A.OXH.Ry0kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org> And further asks: ++++++++> I note that I recently used "cacaho" to refer to an event located at a stretch of time that includes the present, rather than to locate one event with respect to another. What I was after was a "present + imperfective" form, though I can find nothing glossed "imperfective" in the most recent cmavo list. Actually my preference for how to express this would be for "leinu broda" to be an argument of "ca". Any suggestions about how do this? >+++++++++ You tell me what 'imperfective' means and I'll tell you how to say it ;-) (Imperfective is often used to cover any or all of incomplete, repetitive and habitual) Seriously though, I use ca ca'o to mean 'is now in the temporal interior of the extended event ...', which I suspect is what you are after. I think 'lei nu broda' is possible, but I anyway would probably be misled by the 'lei' into thinking your are intending to massify a number of probably disjoint events. ------ >mihelahocte. And cte. This is still invalid, again because 'cte' is not a lojban word. co'o mi'e kolin