From LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:49:54 2010 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 4 Aug 1993 08:46:38 -0400 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1028; Wed, 04 Aug 93 08:45:30 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3671; Wed, 04 Aug 93 08:47:01 EDT Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 08:43:08 EDT Reply-To: bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu Sender: Lojban list Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was bob@GRACKLE.STOCKBRIDGE.MA.US From: bob@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU Subject: ZAhO example (short) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, bob@grackle.stockbridge.ma.us To: Erik Rauch In-Reply-To: Colin Fine's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1993 10:21:35 +0100 <9308040923.AA02879@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Ukn Aug 4 08:46:39 1993 X-From-Space-Address: bob@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU Message-ID: Another ZAhO example: A group of boosters is trying to set up a Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art in a former mill building in a mill town in the north western part of the state. This project is definitively in an "inchoative" state {pu'o}. ....and there is no way you could translate the state into a sort of future tense. No one knows if the museum will get started. The backers have gone through more perils than Pauline. Will the (conservative, tightwad) state government extend its deadline for providing part of the money? Will the Guggenheim museum operate the museum (at this time, no)? Will another consortia of museums come to the rescue? ....? The only veridical claim you can make is that this project is in the time that the backers hope is leading up to a start up. In this case, there is no way you can make a translation that focuses on the operation of the process/event (the hoped for future); an accurate translation must focus on the current inchoative state. Robert J. Chassell bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu Rattlesnake Mountain Road (413) 298-4725 Stockbridge, MA 01262-0693 USA