Received: from MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:51:01 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:50:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199308041550.AA12905@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2250; Wed, 04 Aug 93 11:49:39 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6432; Wed, 04 Aug 93 11:49:52 EDT Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 08:49:18 PDT Reply-To: Mark A Biggar Sender: Lojban list From: Mark A Biggar Subject: Re: ZAhO tenses X-To: lojban@cuvmb.bitnet X-Cc: mab%dst1@wdl1.wdl.loral.com To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Ukn Aug 4 11:51:02 1993 X-From-Space-Address: mab@WDL.LORAL.COM > One thing to bear in mind in thinking about ZAhO tenses is that there are > a lot more than just pu'o and ba'o, and they all revolve around the paradigm > of thinking of the selbri as an event, and then putting the speaker or > reference point relative to that event with the ZAhO. Some of these other > ZAhO tenses are not symmetric. In particular, the ones regarding completion, > and za'o itself do not have a complete set of corresponding contours at the > beginning of the event (super-inchoative =? starting too soon). A member of ZAhO for "started to soon" doesn't sound that usefull, but one for "started late" would get a lot of use given the usual situation at the meetings, plays, concerts, and events I attend. :-( -- Mark Biggar mab@wdl.loral.com