Received: from MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:26:13 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:26:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199308041526.AA11920@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2056; Wed, 04 Aug 93 11:25:02 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5993; Wed, 04 Aug 93 11:26:29 EDT Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:21:44 EDT Reply-To: Jorge LLambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge LLambias Subject: Re: [long] Re: On the tense system X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, snark!cowan@gvls1.vfl.paramax.com To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: X-From-Space-Date: Ukn Aug 4 11:26:15 1993 X-From-Space-Address: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU la djan cusku di'e > > Does {mi pu'o klama} mean that I am at one point in time before the > > beginning of my going, or not? how do I fit the "all time"? > > It means that the reference time is somewhere within that span. As a > sumti tcita, it means that the main bridi's time is contained within the > span of the time before the time of the seltcita sumti. > I would delete "contained", but before arguing this one, I need your verdict on whether ZAhO le nu broda <===> ca le nu ZAhO broda > > {mi ca'o klama} then means: > > > > "I started going a while ago, I am still going, and I will cease in another > > while." > > Yes. More than what I'd like, but I guess acceptable. (I'll think more about it.) Jorge