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Reply-To: Nick Nicholas <nsn@MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU>
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From: Nick Nicholas <nsn@MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: TEXT: A card from Andrew
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To: Erik Rauch <rauch>
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Colin Fine" at Sep 17, 93 03:39:45 pm
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To Colin Fine respond I thus:

#.i lemi kakne be lenu tavla fo (?) la modiorul. pu na xamgu ca
#lenu co'a surla
#.i leNI mi kakne lenu tavla BAU la mOdiorul. NA PU xamgu ca
#lenu co'a surla

The x4 of {tavla} is still a language, isn't it?

#.iku'i mi ca snada tavla je milxe snada jimpe la modiorul.
#.iku'i mi ca snada BO BANGYTA'A je KE milxe snada jimpe la mOdiorul.

Aha! It's the old problem of what is the place structure of a je-compound.
I don't think what la andruc. had is wrong, strictly speaking; {la mOdiorul}
is still the x2 of {jimpe}.

#.i le solri cu tsali dirce .isemu'ibo .ei mi'a limna le lalxu .e le
#limna badvau
#.i le solri cu CARMI dirce .iJA'Ebo .AI mi'a limna
#le lalxu .e le SELYLIMNA badvau

Whatever I may have said in the lujvo paper, {limna bravau} is still an
intelligible tanru, even if {selylimna bravau} is more "correct". I assume,
by the way, that {bravau} is intended ("swimming pool"), rather than
a moat ({bandu vasru} --- defensive container, in the new rafsi
interpretation.)

#.i mi'a mi'a xruti la budopect mu'i lenu viska le cinri selviska
#.i mi'a mi'a xruti la bUdopect. mu'i lenu viska le cinri selviska

{lei}, I'd say; he's not seeing all there is to see.

#.i mi ba zvati la .iorkcr. ca la pabidjed.
#.i mi ba zvati la .iorkcr. ca la pabidjed.

When the {se broda} is a {mela'ezoze'u} rather than a {mela'ezoze'i}, I
think {diklo} makes more sense than {zvati}.

#.i mi cusku la'edi'u mu'i lenu le mi jboste ca zvati la lidz.

Ditto; and I had to think a bit before I realised that he wasn't referring
to lojban-list, and that the list was left behind; but I doubt the wording
need be changed to make this more explicit.

The corrections are minor; Andrew Smith has done a good job, and I do think
it's time he got published in ju'i lobypli (he wrote a couple of good pieces
last year, I recall). This card certainly wouldn't be out of place in JL19.


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