From @YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Wed Sep 29 14:41:05 1993 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:54:10 -0400 Received: from YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:54:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199309291254.AA02094@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4548; Wed, 29 Sep 93 08:52:18 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6460; Wed, 29 Sep 93 08:52:58 EDT Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 13:41:05 +0100 Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: jbobau (Was: use "lojbau" not "lojban") To: Erik Rauch Status: RO X-Status: And says: ++++++++> It would be preferable when speaking in lojban of lojban to use "le/lo lojbau/lobybau/lohorbau/lojbangu/lobybangu/lohorbangu/etc." rather than "la lojban". "la lojban" could be referring to anything that the speaker chooses to call "lojban", whereas "lojbau" is unambiguous. I reckon it's probably a mistaken malglico holdover - in English the 'names' of languages look like proper nouns (even though they are probably actually common nouns, contrary to superficial appearances). >++++++++ I take the point, And, and I think it's worth making (though given what a name means, it's not really a problem) - but please, if you're going to post something like this, get it right. The valid lujvo forms for lojbo bangu are lojbybangu lobybangu jbobangu lojbybau lobybau jbobau only. (I prefer jbobau, or lojbybau if I think the recipient is likely to have trouble recognising that). 'lojbau' is 'logji bangu' (logical language - and let's not suppose lo jbobau is that zo'o je'unai) 'lo'orbau' is 'slovo bangu' (Slavic language - howzat!) Colin